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Johnny Manziel Or Robert Griffin III: Who Would You Rather Dallas Sign?

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Wow, even after a 4-12 season the Dallas Cowboys are having big-time names say they want to play for Dallas next season. Too bad they are only big-time names in the media and not on the playing field.

Johnny Manziel and Robert Griffin lll have both expressed interest in coming to play for the Dallas Cowboys backing up quarterback Tony Romo. Who would be a better fit for the Cowboys?

Let's look at why it would be a good idea and reasons why it would be a bad idea.

Johnny Manziel

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JFF3: ... Browns are so done with the guy. I will be stunned if he ever plays another snap for Cleveland. He wants to go to Dallas.

The Good

Johnny Football. I mean his name says it all. Manziel knows how to play football and can do it at a very high level. Manziel has yet to have a season under his belt where he starts all 16 games or even enter the season as a starter. Drafted by the Cleveland Browns in the first round with the 22nd overall pick in 2014, Manziel came out with high expectations. He was supposed to finally be the guy to lead the Browns to a Super Bowl. Cleveland was in an exciting time, not only did they just get Manziel, but LeBron James announced his coming back home party a few months later for the Cavaliers.

Johnny Manziel was loved by the Dallas Cowboys - or should I say just Jerry Jones. Jerry apparently was close to taking Manziel in the 2014 draft, but took Zack Martin instead. Obviously that turned into a great decision, but what if Dallas had taken Johnny?

Just by watching film on the 23-year-old, you see he has a knack for getting away from pressure and extending plays from inside the pocket, just like Tony Romo does. Johnny Manziel, if he came to Dallas, would learn behind Romo. Way better than being behind Josh McCown, right? It's known that Johnny Manziel is a playmaker.

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The Bad

I am just going to make this simple for you. Johnny Manziel has so much God given talent to play in the NFL, but he continues to make mistakes off the field. It's a bad choice because he is immature. I've said it before, Tony Romo and others will not put up with it.

Here's a list of his off-the-field antics, they speak for themselves:

  • November 21, 2014 - Manziel allegedly involved in altercation at At The 9, a downtown Cleveland apartment building
  • February 2, 2015 - Manziel enters rehab
  • April 11, 2015 - Manziel is released from rehab
  • October 12, 2015 - Manziel and his girlfriend involved in roadside altercation
  • November 17, 2015 - Manziel cleared by NFL for roadside incident
  • November 23, 2015 - Manziel spends bye week at Texas night clubs
  • December 28, 2015 - Johnny Manziel makes headlines for a video of him holding an unidentified can
  • January 4, 2015 - ESPN Reported "Johnny "Billy" Manziel seen wearing disguise at Las Vegas Club"

 Robert Griffin III

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Report: Robert Griffin III wants to sign with Cowboys if cut by Redskins https://t.co/UNZT0vLZOa

The Good

Remember when we all dreaded playing the Redskins in Robert Griffin's rookie year? That was the season RGlll led the Redskins to the NFC East title, seems like yesterday doesn't it?

RGlll put up monster stats in 2012, passing for 20 touchdowns, throwing only 5 interceptions, and had a quarterback rating of 102.4. That wasn't even the most deadly part of his game either, the option was so deadly his rookie year, defenses didn't know how to stop it. RGlll ran for 815 yards and 7 touchdowns in 2012.

Obviously he was dangerous his rookie season and at least he has had success in the NFL, unlike Johnny Manziel. Griffin also had fans in attendance for the week 17 win over the Cowboys walking along the sidelines prior to the game. Oh, no big deal, that's normal, but the fans had custom made #10 Cowboys jerseys with RGlll on the back side.

Robert Griffin III 2012-13 highlights (Clear Eyes Full Hearts)

Robert Griffin III, the amazing rookie quarterback who can run and throw amazingly. Check out his amazing plays right here. Music- Clear Eyes Full Hearts and Here Comes the Boom.

The Bad

After his rookie season his numbers went down and down fast.

Injuries started to pile up and he was never the same player again. The option game was quickly stopped and teams finally had a solution for it. Eventually, after several failed seasons, Captain Kirk Cousins took over. Cousins led the Redskins to a NFC East title this season and had a great year after being announced the starting quarterback.

The Redskins haven't given Griffin a chance ever since. Robert Griffin lll was inactive for most games this past season. Another big impact is he never learned how to slide when running; he would always take the big hits from defenders. If you want to be the quarterback of someone's franchise, you cannot go getting hit the way he does.

Below is a Twitter poll I ran to see who my followers would rather have in Dallas next season. Now the question is, who do you want?

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  • Randy

    It's real easy….none of the above. To say the Manziel can play at a very high level is a huge leap. While he has done some good things on the field we have not seen enough of him to make such a statement. But the guy is a train wreck and not anybody I would entrust my franchise to. Do you really think he would have the respect of the team? The guy cannot resist disaster! Who goes to Las Vegas in a disguise and then ask for everything to be comped???? That would be the guy that would not be my franchise QB. Is rather be wrong about him doing a 180 and let him get his life in order somewhere else.

  • Chris

    It's hard to say really anyone would be better then what we have as a back as Cassel is old and Vaughn surely doesn't look like the answer either. So bringing in either guy could be a high risk option I would take for insurance purposes, but all things considered I think both would do much better in Dallas. Manziel may slow his role if you gave the cry baby what he wants, his name on a Dallas jersey. He's always wanted to be a Cowboy so it just might be the thing he needs, however he is gonna wanna start sooner than later. He's purely a show boat, look at me not the team kinda guy, kinda like Cam just a season ago. But look where he is as a player once he finally matured and realized it's not a one man show. So again giving Johnny what he wants might help speed up maturity for him as an NFL player. Again high risk but could be high reward so long as he doesn't follow in Jordan Cameron's foot steps and starts actually learning from mistakes. Now Griffin is more high injury risk option but does have talent especially if he was to sign and be coached by Romo and Garrett. He could finally tighten up some things to be that stud he was back when he was a rookie, especially with the help of an amazing O-line and the reemergence of McFadden. And we all know as fans that Jerry loves his high risk guys (McFadden, McClain). But he also gets the guys he wants too again (McFadden) so I wouldn't be shocked to see either one sign with us the off-season. But if I was Jerry I go with Griffin or both cause both may sign pretty cheap. Then you could get the comparison, but 99.9% unlikely that will happen.

    • Randy

      Chris I think you have totally missed it on Manziel. You said if you give him what he wants he might speed up his maturity. That's exactly his problem! He's always gotten what he wants which is why he has no boundaries, no rules, and no accountability! He will either figure it out or wash out of the league. If the Browns cut him, the line for his services won't be very long. And I hope everybody else keeps Jerry out of the line! And as far as RG3…I just don't think his style of play fits Dallas' scheme. He might thrive in the right scheme but I don't think we need to roll the dice.

  • http://PigskinHub.com Zac Fields

    I just think the Dallas Cowboys and Johnny Manziel are not a good marriage when you consider the trouble Manziel has in handling the spotlight. If I'm Manziel's agent, or anyone who has his best interest at heart, I'm trying to either keep him in Cleveland or send him off to Detroit, Arizona, Kansas City, Buffalo or even Houston. Somewhere that's not going to ADD to the public spectacle that Manziel is already, but is also a place where he might get a shot to play in the next couple seasons.

    The last thing Manziel needs is to be in Dallas where his issues will be exploited by the media and blown up out of proportion. Bringing Greg Hardy here taught us that much.

  • http://wmscradio.com/show/upon-further-review/ Sean Martin

    Pigskin ZacI just think the Dallas Cowboys and Johnny Manziel are not a good marriage when you consider the trouble Manziel has in handling the spotlight. If I'm Manziel's agent, or anyone who has his best interest at heart, I'm trying to either keep him in Cleveland or send him off to Detroit, Arizona, Kansas City, Buffalo or even Houston. Somewhere that's not going to ADD to the public spectacle that Manziel is already, but is also a place where he might get a shot to play in the next couple seasons.

    The last thing Manziel needs is to be in Dallas where his issues will be exploited by the media and blown up out of proportion. Bringing Greg Hardy here taught us that much.

    Well, Browns are about to make it official with Hue Jackson. I think that means the end of JFF. Let the speculation begin! [emoji52]

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  • Crouchgc

    You can bet you last bag of popcorn that one of them will be a Cowboy in 2016.

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  • RJ Ochoa

    I prefer RGIII personally.

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  • RJ Ochoa

    I prefer RGIII personally.

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  • SilverandBlueSpirit

    I don't want either one but if you force me to pick i'd say R.G. 3.

  • cjprine

    Well I'll say this, Cleveland is a joke! The only reason why Manziel get publicity is because it's Manziel! In college the media praised him put him on a pedals tool and stood by to watch him fall! (Not making excuses for the kid but the kid was put into a horrible situation in Cleveland! Head coach after head coach, no stable locker room! Heck he's in Cleveland!

    I think the kid can play, you give him low risk high reward contract, let him sit, learn a system- be surrounded by a veteran club! I think u can get a franchise QB!

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  • Blue Star

    Cleveland is a joke. I don't understand why Hue Jackson wants to go to another dysfunctional HC situation.

    Manziel played good against Steelers. In fact the games he started were against some good defenses. I think I would roll with Manziel over Griffin. Roberts injury history has me concerned. I see Griffin in Philly as I am sure he wants to stick it to the Skins.

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How Will Safeties Xavier Woods, Kavon Frazier Fit Kris Richard’s Secondary?

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How Will Safeties Xavier Woods, Kavon Frazier Fit Kris Richard's Secondary?
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Unfortunately, David Irving's most recent four game suspension is the main story for a Dallas Cowboys team finished with OTAs and mini camp, left only to wait for training camp now. I've chosen to focus on the players that were on the field for the offseason program, that will continue to contend for starting jobs in Oxnard. Standing out from a lackluster group of safeties, for a Kris Richard led secondary that is off to a fast start, are safeties Xavier Woods and Kavon Frazier.

Joined by Jeff Heath, Tyree Robinson, Jameill Showers, and Marqueston Huff, the Cowboys are lacking a dominant force at safety to pair with their young and talented group of cornerbacks. With the likes of Chidobe Awuzie, Byron Jones (the former safety), and Anthony Brown already improving under Richard, the Cowboys hope is that the same will apply to this group of safeties.

It's still entirely too early to know how the Cowboys want to deploy their safeties this season, but the only players that have shown their strengths and weaknesses over any period of time are Heath, Frazier, and Woods. This is sure to cause an uphill battle for the fringe players looking to push this trio of versatile safeties.

Jeff Heath has appeared in 77 games over five seasons with the Cowboys. Frazier and Woods combined? Just 24 games, with 16 of them making up Woods' rookie season a year ago. This makes finding a potential role for both players vital to the Cowboys.

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Dallas Cowboys S Kavon Frazier (AP Photo/Michael Ainsworth)

Safety Kavon Frazier

Working mostly as a special teams player through two seasons in Dallas, Kavon Frazier has patiently awaited his opportunity to spark the Cowboys defense as a sixth round pick of 2016. Doing so in a memorable week 13 win over the Washington Redskins, Frazier earned an increased role as an enforcer on defense.

This is a player whose straight line burst and power is ideal for a ST starter, and when Frazier connects coming downhill on defense, the results can be catastrophic for an opposing offense.  Surely these are traits that will remind Kris Richard even slightly of his Super Bowl winning "Legion of Boom" defenses.

The distinction between Frazier being a part-time player or one maximizing his potential to start deep in the Cowboys secondary is an important one. Limited in coverage, Frazier may be at his best when conceding snaps to another safety on the Cowboys roster with more of an all-around game -- which the Cowboys can only hope Xavier Woods continues to be.

Safety Xavier Woods

Xavier Woods may not have the pure stopping power that Kavon Frazier possesses, but as a fellow sixth-round pick there is more than enough to like about what Woods brought to the Cowboys in 2017 out of Louisiana State. With 14 interceptions and six forced fumbles out of college, Woods slid in the draft enough for the Cowboys to trade up for his services.

The team wasn't cheated out of their investment in Woods last season, giving him the "Byron Jones treatment" as Woods lined up all over the field. It was Richard that came to Dallas and almost immediately moved Byron Jones down to cornerback, seeing a better use of his natural size and skills there.

Doing the same for Woods -- while keeping the natural FS free to react -- should be next up on Richard's offseason to-do list. This is a player with sideline to sideline range, enough athleticism to cover down in the slot, and the functional strength to compete in the box.

Amidst this uncertainty for both Frazier and Woods, early reports out of the Cowboys practices thus far have Jeff Heath specifically matching up against the tight end. This is an ideal role for Heath, and one that could compliment Woods very well.

How Will Safeties Xavier Woods, Kavon Frazier Fit Kris Richard's Secondary? 1

Dallas Cowboys CB Anthony Brown, S Xavier Woods, Jeff Heath

Regardless of where Heath is on the field, Woods should be able to coexist with him as a similarly instinctive safety.

There is also the possibility that both Heath and Woods struggle to handle these "starting" responsibilities, leaving the Cowboys with very little trusted depth at safety. If there is an area Woods needs the most improvement in, it is the angles he takes against the run to consistently make stops, a weakness also potentially mitigated by the Cowboys improved linebacker play (investing the 19th overall pick at the position).

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Between Frazier and Woods, it feels safe to say the Cowboys must find a starter for a secondary that could still achieve great things in 2018. The Cowboys are entering this season with a loaded group of cornerbacks, all capable of making a safety's job relatively easy, especially while learning under Richard.

Such can be the hope for a raw player like Frazier and, in a sense, Xavier Woods. The second-year player in Woods is a great unknown for the Cowboys right now, as he'll remain that way for some time before next month's training camp.

With this, we'll have much more time to sit around and continue pondering what certain position groups will look like once meaningful Cowboys football graciously returns. I've written before that I'm paying close attention to this team's group of wide receivers, and you can add in the secondary players they'll be competing against too.

Tell us what you think about "How Will Safeties Xavier Woods, Kavon Frazier Fit Kris Richard’s Secondary?" in the comments below. You can also email me at Sean.Martin@InsideTheStar.com, or Tweet to me at @SeanMartinNFL!



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No, Cowboys Shouldn’t Cut David Irving

Mauricio Rodriguez

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Cowboys' Pass Rush: Who Will Be QB Sack Leader In 2017?
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For the past five years, Dallas Cowboys fans have gone through painful offseason stories regarding upcoming suspensions for defensive players. It doesn't matter how much talent the front office is able to find through the Draft, there's always one player that ruins what feels like a successful offseason. This time, for the second consecutive year, David Irving is the player to let Cowboys Nation down.

On Friday it was announced that Irving will serve a four-game suspension after violating the NFL's substance abuse policy.

Understandably, a lot of Cowboys' fans want to see Irving released by the franchise that has preached the "Right Kind of Guy" philosophy while failing to establish such a thing. It's disappointing to see such a talented player limiting himself  by not "wanting it" bad enough and by making mistakes like this repeatedly.

However, even if it's a very frustrating situation, the Cowboys shouldn't cut David Irving. 

First of all, Irving's hit against the cap space is pretty minimum and nothing to be concerned at all. After being handed a second-round tender earlier in the year, #95 was set to earn $2.91M during the season. With a four-game suspension ahead of him, that number will be even lower.

We're talking about a guy who in eight games managed to get to the quarterback seven times in 2017 and consistently pressured opposing signal callers. Not to mention he's going to be just 25 years old when the season begins.

For the Cowboys, David Irving has the talent needed to average one sack per game. All of this for less than three million.

Irving has proven by now that he's not worth a long-term extension. That much is clear.  In order to get one of those, a player must prove his availability.

Talking specifically about 2018, though, I'm sure the Cowboys will be better off if they count on Irving for the final 12 games of the season. The team counts with pretty decent depth at the position with Maliek Collins, Datone Jones and Jihad Ward, but Irving has the potential to end the season with double-digit sacks.

The team gains nothing by releasing Irving. The team will not even be "sending a message" if they were to release #95. Maybe if the team had consistently sent this kind of "messages" over the years it would make sense.

However, we know this team sticks with their players and supports them in moments like this. They have done just that with Randy Gregory and it seems like it will pay off soon.

Whether we're mad at Irving's actions or not, the truth is letting him go wouldn't be wise at all. The Cowboys are not paying him big-time money, he's young and he'll be productive on the field when the defense needs him to.

We're talking about a football team that wants to make a run for the Lombardi Trophy. They can't be letting starting-caliber players go just like that. They need all the help they can get and even though his situation is far from ideal, David Irving will play a big role on defense.

Tell me what you think about "No, Cowboys Shouldn’t Cut David Irving" in the comments below, or tweet me @PepoR99 and let’s talk football! If you like football and are looking for a Dallas Cowboys show in Spanish, don’t miss my weekly Facebook Live! show, Primero Cowboys!



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Should Cowboys Add Another Safety Before Training Camp?

Brian Martin

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Should Cowboys Add Another Safety Before Training Camp?

The Dallas Cowboys are extremely thin at the safety position. Fact. They haven't really brought in anyone to upgrade the position from last season. Fact. I just wanted to point that out because there's a lot of discussion as to whether or not the Cowboys need to add another safety before training camp.

I don't know where you stand on this debate or how I feel about it personally, but it's definitely something that needs to be discussed from the Cowboys end. It is the one position where there is a lot of unknown and inexperienced. If one of their current safeties were to go down with an injury and miss any time, the whole defense would suffer.

As things stand right now, Jeff Heath is the only one who will reprise his starting role on the backend of the Cowboys defense. Behind him are Xavier Woods and Kavon Frazier, but knowing exactly how they fit in at this moment is completely up in the air.

Unfortunately, that's the top three safeties for the Dallas Cowboys heading into the 2018 season. What's even more bothersome is their fourth might be an undrafted rookie, Tyree Robinson. I don't know about you, but I find that very concerning. But, maybe Kris Richard, the defensive backs coach and passing game coordinator, knows something we don't.

Kris Richard

Dallas Cowboys DB Coach Kris Richard

Fortunately, Kris Richard was recently asked if he had any concerns about the safety position on the "Doomsday Podcast" with Matt Mosley and Ed Werder. He said he had "none".

"I'm confident. I feel really good at this point in time and it's because the level of character of our guys," he said. "We're going to get better. That's the deal because our guys are young, focused, I think the hunger's there. I love the look in their eyes. I love how everyone is buying in, is focused and paying attention to detail. It makes a difference when guys care. It makes a difference when each one wants to teach one. We're trying to build something special. We want to be tribe-like. We want to be more than a team."

It certainly sounds like Kris Richard is excited about the Dallas Cowboys current safeties. Of course, he would never just come out and say that this group is terrible or he wished they'd add Earl Thomas another available safety. That's just not how things work. He's here to coach up the guys on the roster and not worry about personnel moves.

I don't know about you, but I know I would feel a lot better if they had one more experienced safety who could come in and compete for a starting job. Maybe someone like Tre Boston or Kenny Vaccaro, who are still unsigned. Maybe make that trade for Earl Thomas? That's a dream that just won't die.

Regardless, the Dallas Cowboys need to do something to address their depth at the safety position. I don't know what their plans are moving forward, but hopefully they have a contingency plan in place. It's just smart business.

Do you think the Dallas Cowboys need to add a safety before training camp?



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