The thing about the NFL today, is that ppl use the term Elite or franchise QB way too loosely,

My list of Franchise QBs

Tom Brady (duh)

Russell Wilson

Lamar Jackson

Aaron Rodgers

Kyler Murray

Justin Herbert

Josh Allen

Pat Mahomes (even though he hasn't been good this year )

And Dak

The rest are iffy , Stafford isn't on there cuz he hasn't won a playoff game for how long he's been in the league

The thing about my list, i could actually argue about half of them shouldn't be there as there's still lots of unknowns with them, (Herbert and Murray have no playoff wins, Lamar who I've seen alot of failures in the playoffs so far, and Dak who's done well in the past but hasn't done enough)

Playoffs and of course SB wins are important, but I think we can all agree that Trent Dilfer wasn't a better QB than Dan Marino, yet Dilfer won a SB, Marino didn't

There's a fine line between wins vs. stats that determines how great a QB is or was, now if you got stats to go along with the rings, then you're a slam dunk great QB, but anything less than that one way or the other, then i have to dig deeper to figure out if you're part of that same echelon of QB, when you're Marino and you have all those stats but no rings, I'd put you in the upper echelon.

All in all, stats isn't everything and or RINGS aren't everything, how you got those stats or how you got those rings determines to me how great you were