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News & Notes - Greg Hardy Is A Piece Of Shit

It’s a fairly simple math problem.

Any man who can allow himself to physically harm a woman is a piece of shit.

Greg Hardy physically harmed a woman.

Thus, Greg Hardy is a piece of shit.

Say it with me: “Greg Hardy is a piece of shit.”

This is something I have privately felt for several months but publicly refrained from saying. After several private discussions with Cowboys fans who I hadn’t seen say this publicly, I know I’m not alone.

Before I jump too far into this, I want to make something crystal clear and this part is a personal belief of mine. People have stated they’re disappointed that Hardy has never given a public apology. My take on this is that it is very arrogant of people to want a public apology. The victim deserves an apology, you and I do not. For you and I to put ourselves on the level of pretending we deserve an apology when nothing happened to us is total arrogance. Nothing happened to you. Nothing happened to me. We don’t deserve an apology.

Moving on…

As a fan of the Cowboys, we find ourselves defending the team, the front office, the coaching staff, the players, etc, on a daily basis. Every new sunrise seems to bring a new thing that people want to bash the Cowboys for.

I had a friend tell me he was disappointed in the fact that I have gone easy on Hardy publicly. He pointed out to me that, with the following we have with @CowboysNation, we have a responsibility to be honest about this.

He was absolutely correct.

So here you go, here are some of the things I have felt and never publicly said:

When Randy Gregory fell into our lap, I hoped it meant that we could release Greg Hardy although I knew this wouldn’t be the case.

When Greg Hardy made his 9/11 joke in May, I privately hoped his time in Dallas would be over.

I think it’s obvious that Greg Hardy is a person with anger issues, who crossed an uncrossable line on May 12, 2014.

I want the Cowboys to win a Super Bowl, but in my head, I have pictured the words that would be said countless times, “You guys had to have a woman beater on the team to do it”.

I didn’t want that to be the takeaway if we won with him.

I want the takeaway to be about all the years with Tony Romo and Jason Witten and Jason Garrett and Jerry winning without Jimmy (or Jimmy’s players), I want to see the raw emotion we would get from Dez, etc.

I didn’t want any success to be publicly tarnished in the way we know it would be with Hardy on the team.

When I reached out to Hardy and asked him to donate to the airplane banner & Children’s Hospital we were helping to raise money for and he replied and donated, I thought “Okay, maybe he gets it. Maybe this is the start of trying to be the good guy.” So I started trying to positively build him up publicly.

Training Camp started and we saw the videos of Hardy getting along with teammates and fans. We heard stories about him being a leader with the team, pushing teammates to work harder, etc.

Things seemed to be moving in the right direction.

The season started and Hardy’s on-field talent immediately seemed like he might at least be worth the headache. “Maybe now the focus will be on his play”.

And then the game happened against the Giants. Rich Bisaccia. Clipboard. Hardy. Here we go again.

Oh and now pictures from May 2014 have been released.

And here come our instincts again. Defend the team. Defend the front office. Defend the players.

For me, exhausted from all of it, I was done defending Greg Hardy.

I put out 1 statement, spread over 11 tweets:

“All along, my stance has been “I don’t know what happened that night and neither do you”. While the release of pictures gives us a better idea of what happened that night, it doesn’t paint a different picture than what could have been reasonably expected to have been the case. Whatever happened, happened to and between Holder and Hardy. Nothing happened to YOU or ME and I say this specifically because I maintain my stance that Hardy owes us nothing. He doesn’t owe us an apology. My stance still remains that Hardy is a football player who clearly was responsible for a very bad situation in his past. Much like Vick and many others, Hardy went thru the legal process. If you’re mad that he isn’t in prison, then be mad at the people responsible for the case. The Cowboys/NFL have no control over the legal process. Speaking on behalf of the people behind this account, while we have favorite or least favorite players, we root for the Star. As mentioned 2 weeks ago, we will continue to focus more on on-field topics, because that is the entire point of what we do.”

I was ripped for this statement, with people saying I was defending Greg Hardy, despite the words “Hardy… clearly was responsible for a very bad situation in his past.” Somehow me saying I felt he was responsible was me defending him.

This statement caused people of “higher morals” to say some thoughtful things to me, here are just 2 of the highlights:

  • “Go buy a gun and kill yourself.”
  • “I hope you have a daughter and Hardy rapes and kills her.”

So thank you, to those hundreds of you that replied negatively, and especially those two people, thank you for taking the time to teach me how to be a better person.

Are you ready to see what a difference perspective makes?

Greg Hardy, who had been following @CowboysNation when I made that statement, blocked us after that statement.

I’m guessing Greg Hardy didn’t feel like those words were defending him.

One thing I am completely at a loss over, if you are upset about Greg Hardy playing in the NFL, why aren’t you also upset about:

  • Adrian Peterson – who assaulted his own child, still playing
  • Ahmad Brooks – facing sexual battery charges, still playing
  • Aldon Smith – hit and run, DUI, several prior arrests, still playing
  • Sheldon Richardson – recklessly driving at 143 mph to avoid arrest with a 12-year-old child in his car at the time, still playing
  • Bruce Miller – charged with domestic battery, still playing
  • Letroy Guion – felony firearm charges, still playing
  • D’Qwell Jackson – assault charges, still playing
  • Chris Johnson – illegally open-carrying a firearm, still playing
  • Tim Jennings – DUI, reckless driving, speeding, still playing
  • Junior Galette – domestic violence/battery, then signed by Redskins
  • Le’Veon Bell – DUI, still playing
  • Erin Henderson – DWI, still playing
  • Jo-Lonn Dunbar – battery and disorderly conduct, still playing
  • Mike Vick – murdered/tortured countless dogs because they couldn’t fight good enough, still playing
  • Henry Melton – assault, still playing
  • Ben Roethlisberger – accused of sexual assault, still playing
  • Marcell Dareus – reckless endangerment, still playing
  • Chris Culliver – hit-and-run and rammed a witness’ vehicle, still playing
  • Frank Clark – domestic violence, then drafted by Seattle, still playing

I only included situations where the player physically harmed someone (domestic violence, battery, etc, allegedly or otherwise) or could have physically harmed someone (DUI, reckless endangerment, etc, allegedly or otherwise).

I could go on and on with this list. I could continue typing that list for hours, as the San Diego Union-Tribune has an easily accessible log of 809 NFL player arrests. (http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/nfl/arrests-database/)

While many people will talk about Hardy not spending time in prison, in comparison to a situation like Vick, the legal system and the NFL are 2 completely separate things, so let’s treat them as such.

The list I posted should be enough for you to realize that if you’re only upset about Hardy playing in the NFL, you’re missing a larger problem.

Personally, I think Greg Hardy is an absolute piece of shit and I think the majority of the names on the list above are also pieces of shit.

Now, I ask you, if you’re only talking about Greg Hardy, why aren’t you talking about all the people on that list? Do you not care about their victims/potential victims? I sure do.

I would hope you care as much about every victim equally and not care about 1 just because of a uniform and the headlines that come along with being negative about the Cowboys.

I promise you, if you make this campaign about all the scum in the league, I’ll be screaming the loudest in agreement with you. When you look like you only care about 1 guy it makes you look like you only care about 1 victim.

Let that sink in.

If you’re only talking about 1 guy, it makes you look like you only care about 1 of the victims, and that’s a bad, hypocritical look to have.

Speaking to Cowboys fans:

I understand your conundrum. We grew up rooting for the Star. We’ve spent years defending the Star. The daily barrage of criticism to Romo or the Cowboys, etc has created an instinct that makes us feel like we have to defend EVERYTHING. We don’t.

It is ok to root for the Star and still say Greg Hardy is a piece of shit.

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Mike is originally from Central Florida and has been a Cowboys fan since watching his first Thanksgiving Day game in 1987. Serving diligently as the voice of @CowboysNation on Twitter since March 2014, he strives to enhance the fan experience for every Cowboys fan he encounters.

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11 Comments
  • Randy

    Agree completely. Great story. I have yet to understand why he is treated as Satan himself when so many others get a pass. Other than the obvious reason that he plays for America’s most easily hated team in all of sports. If it was Robert Kraft and Bill Bellichick them there wouldn’t be nearly as much public outcry, but he plays for Dallas and everyone loves to hate them and Jerry.

    • https://insidethestar.com/ Bryson Treece

      Yep. Lot of vitriol when it comes to the smallest slights by anyone wearing a star. Hardy did something bad, so did a lot of other people that I watched fans holler all over Twitter for Dallas to sign. People need to take a step back, a.k.a. pull their heads out of their asses. Thanks for reading, Randy.

  • jaime

    Finally. All those players listed are pieces of shit including ray lewis (yes the Ravens hero that killed someone). People say AP was just “disciplining” his son and that is somehow different from hardy. The way I see it the 4 year old can’t defend himself or call the Cops unlike Holder but fans give AP a hallpass. Yes he’s an absolute piece of shit but plenty of players have done worse and still suit up on Sundays.

  • sue cavanaugh

    Your logic reminds me of the fourth graders I taught. When I called a students out on what they were doing, they would say, “But Johnny’s doing it, too.” There are plenty of other players who deserve our scorn. Just because the Greg Hardy case is the one that breaks the camel’s back, doesn’t give the Cowboys a pass.

  • Larry

    Great story but unfortunately I totally disagree with u calling everyone a piece of shit. Let me just say up front I DO NOT Agee with violence domestic violence at all as my mother and father were victims of it. And I believe everyone should have their day in court to let the law decide the punishment. Everyone deserves a second chance because EVERYONE INCLUDING ALL IF YOU AND MYSELF, have made mistakes. Now the severity of the mistakes might be completely different from one case to another. Half of the people that are condeming Hardy are the ones that are saying they love AP or Tom Brady. Niw comparing the 2 offenses is a bit tricky, as most if u would say how do you compare Hardy and AP to Brady, well all their TERRIBLE decisions had an impact on other peoples lives. Brady set out to gain an advantage to win a playoff game and get back to the super bowl. Ok this was premeditated, which in turn can destroy hund re ds of lives. How you say? Imagine u are a die hard colts fan and you just know they are going to beat the Patriots so you go and bet(legally) your entire months pay on the Colts and Tom Brady deflates the balls to win the game, and also takes jobs away from people in Colts home town as this ended their playoff run. That could impact.alot of people’s lives. Then you look at Hardy and APS cases which obviously i dont have to explain how this affects others lives. Yes I have been criticized before for comparing these but wrong is wrong. OK so you say Brady didn’t do it? Ok, Hardy never got his “official ” day in court. If there’s a problem with that then you need to address the state of North Carolina as that is their law. So are they the same severity wise? Wrong is wrong no matter what the case is, even if it is the golden boy or golden coach. So before you rush to judge and say these people shouldn’t be in the nfl and they are a piece if shit ask yourself if you were running a business and you had a GREAT, DIFFERENCE MAKING EMPLOYEE, that had so charges for domestic violence (away from work and charges were dropped no matter what the reason) or even got fired from previous job for breaking the rules. Or even heaven forbud it was a relative of yours. Would you not give this person the chance to redeem him or herself. And as for do i want this guy to be a role model fir my child? No i dont, I WANT TO BE THE ROLE MODEL FOR MY CHILD and it all starts at home with you as the parents and myself. Just remember “HE WITHOUT SIN CAST THE FIRST STONE”

    • tony

      I. LOVE. YOU! I’m the most manliest, macho type of way. Your comment and this article proves how unfair people are because of the team a player plays for. I like his take and I like your take better, because you believe in not calling people out of their name, and you believe in second chances. A very few people don’t deserve one, but most do. Thank you for attempting to make people realize what a better world we could be, only if we can forgive the ones who deserve it.

  • Mike Viens

    Very well expressed. I agree with everything you said and while he may be a piece of shit now, he deserves a chance to redeem himself. Ruining his life and career serves no purpose beyond vengeance. Maybe you feel like he deserves it but I would challenge that if you are willing to take it there , there is nothing he could have done to change your mind. I’m as pissed about his actions as you but I also understand that a singular moment where I acted really poorly doesn’t define my worth. M

    • https://insidethestar.com/ Bryson Treece

      A singular moment when he acted poorly is one thing, having it in his character to hit a woman is quite another.

      Regardless, reading the article it’s clear that Mike makes the above distinction and also says we aren’t owed anything by Greg Hardy. The problem with this sort of thing that people are riled up over the details of the wrong and forget to look at the good, or at the very least, the not bad.

      Ruining his career and life is not what the article condones, implied or otherwise. Don’t be like the masses who read one sentence and shut their high logic down for the day. Read everything if you’re going to read anything, but read everything especially before you say anything. Too much of that hotheadedness going around and making the situation worse. Hardy deserves a second chance but real men don’t forgive such a big mistake. It’s not personal, just about knowing that he’s willing to cross a line the men I respect wouldn’t dare approach, let alone cross it.

      And then there’s money…

      I wonder who got paid for the pictures? Conveniently, they were released just days after His Record Was Expunged, obviously trying to inflame the situation. All I can be sure of is that it wasn’t Holder or anyone on her behalf, not unless she wants to give the money back. But so what, Deadspin? Pictures don’t change anything about this case beyond touching an emotional nerve in people who otherwise weren’t capable of figuring out what the bruises looked like. We’ll stick with intelligent readers, you can have the rest.

      Thanks for reading, Mike.

  • http://JenniferAnn.org Jennifer Ann’s Group

    Admirable effort to deflect blame – but it is nonsense.

    When you go to court for a speeding ticket to you whine & sulk about all the speeders who don’t get tickets?” Try that in court and see what the response is – and you’ll be able to understand our response: ► SO WHAT? ◄

    Do we think Michael Vick is a terrible person? Yep (but at least he served time). Does that have anything do with Greg Hardy beating the **** out of his defenseless ex-girlfriend? ► NO. ◄ (Hopefully you already knew that.)

    The fact that you use this intellectually dishonest argument speaks volumes about how you perceive the problem of dating violence (as well as the value you place on value compared to human rights). Unfortunately this is a serious issue which is not being addressed in a responsible manner.

    We all have a responsibility to put a stop to this bad behavior and you do nobody any favors by acting as public apologist for this coward who will forever be remembered as the abuser that he is.

  • http://None Dad365

    This is nonsense. Even if he accepted the original judges punishment it included NO JAIL TIME and 3 years probation.
    Unlike most if not all of you cry babies ive actually done something about domestic violence. I understand the emotions the dynamics of it all. Ive both been there and dealt with the aftermath(s) of it all.
    I clicked cuffs on pieces of shits and ive clicked cuffs on guys defending themselves a bit to much. Ive served orders of protections against guys who are *normal* but violate it due to the again the dynamics of the situation(s).
    Ive worked in jails. Im on a first name basis with pieces of shit. I dont know hardy at all … but i lean towards not. Onky his future actions will help us judge that. But ive been deep in domestic issues and until you do that you have no idea.
    Bit premature to call him a piece.of shit …

  • Stephen Stempo

    Block me all you want but I was right you know. All you have to do if you think he is a piece of shit is stop mentioning him.

    Also i’d send him his 300 dollars back.

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Think Jason Garrett is a Robot? FOX Sports Agrees

Jess Haynie

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Cowboys fans have often complained that head coach Jason Garrett is too robotic in his demeanor, media answers, and constant clapping. Yesterday, with most of the country feeling Star Wars fever, FOX Sports tapped into the zeitgeist while also taking a little jab at Garrett’s robot reputation.

FOX Sports released photographs of several NFL personalities as Star Wars character. Aaron Rodgers and Tom Brady were Jedis.  Bill Belichick, surprise-surprise, was a the evil Emperor.

Garrett… well….

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@AaronRodgers12 @CameronNewton @Panthers @Patriots Jason Garrett is fluent in over 6 million forms of communication.

From 2016 Coach of the Year to punchline, Garrett’s reputation has certainly taken a big swing this season. Things are so bad, they couldn’t give him a C-3PO with matching arms. Oh, the indignity.

Of course, this is all in good fun. Garrett has 12 and 13-win seasons in two of the last three years. 2017 could’ve been very different if not for Ezekiel Elliott‘s legal issues and Sean Lee’s injury. And even now, there’s still a chance the Cowboys can sneak back into the playoffs.

Yes, Jason is repetitive. And yes, he’s no Bill Parcells behind a microphone. But could they at least have made him R2-D2?

At least FOX Sports didn’t make him Jar Jar Binks. That should go to Roger Goodell.

Just for fun, what other Star Wars characters would you compare Cowboys players and other staff members to? Maybe Sean Lee as Boba Fett, hunting down targets in the open field? Or maybe Cole Beasley as Luke, since they’re both a little short to be Stormtroopers.

Have any other good Cowboys/Star Wars comparisons? Share them in the comments!

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Cowboys en Español: ¿Combinaciones Para Playoffs?, ¿Juego Trampa vs Raiders?

Mauricio Rodriguez

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Es increíble pensar que ya estamos en la semana 15 de la NFL. Más increíble aún, los Dallas Cowboys que se fueron 13-3 con el sembrado #1 de la NFC hace un año, ahorita cuentan con un récord de 7-6 y unas esperanzas de pasar a playoffs muy, muy pequeñas.

El domingo pasado, a pesar de llevarse la victoria en el campo contra los New York Giants, los Cowboys no recibieron la ayuda que necesitaban alrededor de la liga.

Pero a pesar de ser pequeñas, las esperanzas siguen vivas. Y este domingo, los aficionados a Dallas no sólo apoyaremos a los Cowboys en el Sunday Night Football, sino también a otros cuantos equipos.

Para los Cowboys, ¿cuáles son las combinaciones necesarias?

  • Dallas Cowboys termina la temporada 10-6, ganando los últimos tres partidos. 
  • Que los Green Bay Packers pierdan un partido. 
  • Que los Detroit Lions pierdan un partido. 
  • Que los Atlanta Falcons o los Carolina Panthers pierdan dos partidos. 

En mi opinión, incluso con Aaron Rodgers volviendo al campo, los Panthers y los Falcons presentan el mayor reto. Y creo, que lo que deberíamos estar apoyando en este momento, es que sean los Falcons los que pierdan dos partidos.

¿Por qué? Porque este domingo, Carolina se enfrentará a Green Bay. Francamente, Panthers es el equipo que más probabilidades tiene de echar a perder el regreso heroico de Rodgers. Panthers también puede vencer a los Falcons en la semana 17.

Así que, mientras los Panthers no podrían ayudar perdiendo, creo que más bien nos podrán apoyar ganando. Sin embargo, los resultados de la semana 15 influenciarán mucho a quien apoyaremos como fans de los Cowboys.

Por ahora, estos serían los resultados ideales de la semana 15:

  • CHI Bears vencen a DET Lions. 
  • CAR Panthers vencen a GB Packers.
  • TB Buccaneers sorprenden a ATL Falcons. 

Claro, dos de estos resultados parecen muy optimistas, pero todo puede pasar en la NFL y sobre todo con equipos tan inconsistentes como los Lions.

Por supuesto que, todo esto no tiene ni sentido si los Cowboys no se van 3-0 en las siguientes tres semanas. El rival más fuerte que le queda a Dallas son los Seattle Seahawks. Con Ezekiel Elliott volviendo esa misma semana, será un duelo increíble en el AT&T Stadium.

En mi opinión, será el partido que definirá de que son capaces los Dallas Cowboys del 2017.

Pero primero que nada, los Cowboys se tienen que preocupar por un partido que puede resultar siendo un juego “trampa.” Un juego trampa, es cuando un equipo tiene una semana muy importante por venir (Seahawks) y subestima al rival (Raiders) que tiene enfrente dentro de los próximos días.

Sobre todo cuando es de visita, estos partidos pueden resultar siendo peligrosos en la NFL y realmente, en todos los niveles de football americano.

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Y sí, los Raiders han tenido una temporada muy decepcionante en la que ni Derek Carr ni Amari Cooper han sido lo que se esperaba, pero Derek Carr es un QB que puede echarse al equipo a los hombros en cualquier momento.

Todos pueden tener una mala temporada, y ese ha sido el caso para el #4 de Oakland. Sin embargo, si los Cowboys mantienen el partido cerrado en el cuarto cuarto, Derek Carr puede demostrar que tan peligroso es.

Con jugadores clave como Khalil Mack, que por cierto tendrá una batalla épica con La’el Collins, es un juego que no es tan fácil como parece. Sí, los Raiders tienen un récord de 6-7. ¿Y? Los Cowboys tienen un récord de 7-6. Es mejor, claro. ¿Pero realmente es tan bueno como para pensar que será una victoria fácil?

Podemos criticar a Jason Garrett por muchas cosas, pero una de las cosas que no podemos criticarlo, es la motivación que le da a los jugadores. A pesar de muchos reportes acerca de que los jugadores “estaban molestos” con los coaches, definitivamente no han jugado como si se hubieran rendido en su entrenador.

No creo que los Cowboys pierdan el domingo. Pero esperemos que no sólo ganen en la noche, sino que obtengan victorias indirectas alrededor de la NFC.

Tell me what you think about “Cowboys en Español: ¿Combinaciones Para Playoffs?, ¿Juego Trampa vs Raiders?” in the comments below, or tweet me @PepoR99 and let’s talk football! If you like football and are looking for a Dallas Cowboys show in Spanish, don’t miss my weekly Facebook Live! show, Primero Cowboys!

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Is 3-3 Without Ezekiel Elliott A Win For Dallas?

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Mandatory Credit: Richard Mackson-USA TODAY Sports

It’s funny how quickly perception can change in the NFL.

A little over two weeks ago, the sky was falling on the Dallas Cowboys. They had just been blown out three straight times, twice at home and twice against direct NFC playoff competitors. Cowboys Nation wanted firings – whether that meant head coach Jason Garrett, Scott Linehan, Rod Marinelli, or all of the above.

Dak Prescott couldn’t survive without Ezekiel Elliott, and all of the change made to the defense was beginning to be called a failure by the masses.

Fast forward to this week. The Cowboys have now been the deliverers of butt-kickings the last two weeks, and now sit at 7-6 with an outside chance at a playoff spot. And while the team looked like a complete mess without Elliott previously, a win Sunday would put them at 3-3 over the course of the Pro Bowl running back’s suspension.

And is that really all that bad?

Heading into the suspension, most fans probably would’ve taken 3-3 without Elliott and 8-6 overall. Most fans would’ve though that would put the Cowboys right in the thick of the things in the NFC playoff hunt. And most would’ve assumed we’d be happy with an 8-6 Cowboys team.

Unfortunately, 8-6 most likely won’t be good enough in this year’s playoff race. Especially considering the return of Aaron Rodgers and previous losses to both the Green Bay Packers and Atlanta Falcons. Plus, the entire NFC South has been fantastic this season (besides Tampa Bay) and two teams from the West look legit as well.

So maybe this just isn’t the Cowboys’ year. But, the success of other teams in the conference shouldn’t cloud our perception of what the Cowboys have done this season if they were to win Sunday night. A win over the Raiders this week would qualify the team’s handling of the Elliott suspension as a “success” of sorts (in terms of on the field, at least) in my opinion.

They would have kept themselves alive in a deep NFC playoff race, discovered a legitimate offensive weapon in Rod Smith, maintained a solid rushing attack over the majority of the six games, and allowed for some real growth from their young quarterback Dak Prescott.

I know the first three games of the suspension were awful, and a team with the talent of the Cowboys shouldn’t be losing that way three times in a row, or three times in a season at all. But, something should be said about how the team has weathered that storm, and kept themselves above water in this competitive conference.

But, of course, the result Sunday night could change all of this if the Cowboys come out and lay an egg in Oakland, effectively ending their season before Zeke even gets back. In that case we will more vividly remember the three horrific losses in which the team was out-coached and embarrassed. But, still those games should be remembered regardless of Sunday’s outcome.

So maybe success is a bit of a strong word.

This week’s game is not only a huge one in terms of the 2017 playoff race, but also may be an important one for determining what the 2018 Cowboys will look like.

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